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Science Fiction Made Me a Vegetarian

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We no longer enslave animals for food purposes.
– Will Riker, Star Trek: The Next Generation, “Lonely Among Us”

What do science fiction and going vegetarian or vegan have in common? Science fiction scholar Darko Suvin has coined the term novum (latin for ‘new thing’) in order to describe the (scientific) innovations and novelties distinguishing science fiction from fantasy fiction. To put it briefly, novum is an element by which the work is shown to exist in a different world than that of the reader or the spectator. It must be validated by cognitive logic, which means that the audience must be able to  extrapolate it of today’s science – if  the novum in question is the warp drive, for example. However, a novum can be something completely different that a scientific innovation: it can also be an idea, like elimination of gender in Ursula K. Le Guin’s classic The Left Hand of Darkness (1969). Even if these ideas were strange, in science fiction they are grounded in the world we know and therefore they are capable of estranging us from our everyday conceptions. The reader of Le Guin’s novel might think something along the lines of “Yes, I’m familiar with the idea of gender, but… ‘The king was pregnant?’ What the…?”

What if we had Romulan ale in pubs in Tampere?

Since I was raised in a quite “ordinary” Finnish family, I feel that going vegetarian introduced a novum of one kind into this world. When I was a child, I ate animals almost every day: my favourite dishes included spaghetti bolognese (my father used to make the best sauce ever), chicken breast in sweet curry sauce (one of my mother’s bravuras) and fried Baltic herring fillets. Of course, we sometimes ate vegetarian dishes such as vegetable soups or cauliflower gratin, but giving up eating meat completely would have been a really strange idea – definitely like something out of a science fiction novel. So why did I ever choose going vegetarian?

If we were to one day encounter a form of life more powerful and intelligent than our own, and it regarded us as we regard fish, what would be our argument against being eaten?
– Jonathan Safran Foer, Eating Animals

What if, indeed? “What if” is one of the most common starting points for a science fiction work, and this is also why science fiction was once dubbed as a “literature of ideas”. This means that science fiction is not only concerned with science or fascinating new gadgets, but also with consequences. In science fiction, it is possible to explore and examine endless variety of ideas, and during the years science fiction has certainly taught me to weigh the consequences of my actions and choices in a much more intellectual way. Finally, it was not that hard to present the question myself: “What if I went vegetarian?”

[T]here’s nothing like constructing a world, or recognising a constructed world, for teaching you to see your own world as a construct.
– Gwyneth Jones, Deconstructing the Starships

All in all, constructing a coherent model of the world we live in is one of our primary “survival strategies”.  We tend to see the world as a neat and simple network of entities, events and causes, because it makes our life a lot easier. Unfortunately it also lets us forget that our model of the world is not natural or inevitable. Eating animals on a daily basis, or at all, is not necessary. Good fiction such as challenging science fiction novels reminds us that things do not necessarily have to be the way are. It is possible to invent something new, to ask new questions, and to make a change.

Author: hannaroine

Academic geek slowly constructing a PhD thesis on imaginative, immersive, and interactive universes in fiction and games.

70 thoughts on “Science Fiction Made Me a Vegetarian

  1. Interesting blog. If we do encounter some life-form that sees us as a viable food source then so be it. I doubt they will differentiate between the meat eaters and vegetarians amongst us.

    • Sharks and big cats–I’m talking about lions, & tigers–and bears sometimes see humans as a food source. Humans may be the most dangerous predator on the planet but we are not the only predator that eats meat.

      • I wasn’t for a minute suggesting that only humans ate meat. We are however nominally at the top of the food chain and are not a viable food source to the predators you mention.

    • Really? It’s entirely plausible that meat eaters would be deemed to have too high of a (insert one of the many results from eating a steady meat diet, such as fatty tissue) to be edible for their alien physiology. While vegetarians would be lean and full of healthy amino acids. Wow, we vegans just can’t catch a break, even with a higher life form!

  2. “If we were to one day encounter a form of life more powerful and intelligent than our own, and it regarded us as we regard fish, what would be our argument against being eaten?” wow I never thought about it that way….and here I just published a post about being disgusted by veal but still not wanting to go vegetarian….that really makes me think though. good post. 🙂

  3. Very well put. I am teetering on the brink of veganism (a “guest in someone else’s home” meat eater only, but no dairy due to lactose intolerance) and also a sci-fi dork! I could not have put it better.

  4. I never would have connected these two things. By the end of the post, though, I see that it’s entirely plausible lol! VERY nice work. Thanks for sharing and congrats on being Freshly Pressed.

  5. Our argument against being eaten would be that we did not want to and were capable of organizing a defense against anything which wanted to do so. If the defense was not successful we would then, indeed, be eaten.

  6. You know, you actually made me look at vegetarianism from a completely new view point. Thank you! I too would agree that “It is possible to invent something new, to ask new questions, and to make a change.”
    -CAT

  7. Freaking awesome post! My wife, kids and I went vegetarian about 3 months ago for similar reasons! I’m in the process of a blog about taking 2 small kids through the trek to vegetarianism! Please check out my blog http://bit.ly/SyrRzM . Congrats on being freshly pressed!

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  9. Star Trek London approaches! Yes…we do often seem like like a very self-absorbed child of a specie…

  10. As a science fiction reader and a relative to several vegetarians, I kind of understand what you are getting at. I also agree with what you say about the world, and how it doesn’t have to be the way it is. In fact, that’s one of the themes of the sci-fi trilogy I’m writing right now.

  11. Great point on the purpose of science fiction. Too many people just dismiss it as not fact based when in reality it is.

  12. What if it really turned out that vegetables were sentient creatures sent here to watch over us and help us evolve a la the monolith from 2001?

    Our Pod People that will eventually turn us into clones of themselves.

    ‘You’re next! You’re next!”

  13. hey! i am a vegan and i love this post!! :))

  14. Reblogged this on chryzalynmaeysao and commented:
    i love this thinking 🙂 and of course, discovery! hahaah! great job!!

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  16. Oh, but they do make reconstructed protein that looks and tastes like meat, and is in fact meat chemically.

  17. This is going to sound funny, but that’s the most logical explanation and reason for going Vegetarian that I’ve run across. 🙂

  18. If we were to one day encounter a form of life more powerful and intelligent than our own, and it regarded us as we regard fish, what would be our argument against being eaten?

    :: perhaps i will answer: Sir, fishes are over there (pointing the sea), I can’t swim.

    Nice post.

  19. I love that line of logic from “Eating Animals” and have used it in philosophical debates about why I became a vegetarian often. I even heard my dad (a meat-eater) repeating that line in a discussion a few months later. He’s drawn to its philosophy and logic. Plus, that quote just has staying power. “Eating Animals” laid out some of the best arguments I’ve ever heard for vegetarianism/veganism.

    I wrote about my transition to vegetarianism here (and it was also Freshly Pressed, back in June!):
    http://themidwestmaven.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/why-i-became-a-vegetarian/?wref=tp

    Congrats on the FP and thanks for sharing!

  20. Just goes to show that sci-fi teaches us all we really need to know!

  21. i agree with you about science fiction……personally i am a john wyndham fan………..i do not believe humanity is supposed to be vegatarian ,hench the incisors………neither do i think the human race ever will be vegatarian…i know i never will be………however i am a great veg fan and grow my own and our diet contains a large fresh veg helping……..i do however believe that the modern diet is way too overly meat reliant……l doubt that most humanity throughout history ever ate meat on a daily basis……..perhaps weekly or fortnightly or even monthly ………….. what would be our arguement about being eaten?……….we wont have one………if the aliens are hard core hard wired carnivourous predators they cannot be swayed by argument…….just remember certain creatures are hard wired to be carnivours and can never be vegetarians and therefore will never even be able to concieve of the concept……..then our only alternative will be to fight or die…………….

    • interesting thought just came to mind after mentioning john wyndham…….even some plants are carnivours…………..ponder that one.

      • Thanks for your comments! I agree with you that it would be hopeless to try to convince carnivores to give up meat (e.g. cats!) because they would not survive. The whole point here, though, is about us humans. We are not carnivores but omnivores and we can choose to eat something else than animals. I also doubt that the human race will ever be completely vegetarian, but as a race we could start with reducing meat consumption and eliminating factory farms.

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  23. Ever see The old Twilight Zone episode “To Serve Man”?

  24. well written. some of the best ideas come from science fiction! some of the worst as well, of course; but at least it makes one think.

    great post!

  25. Gosh, that is an interesting perspective on the whole thing … I particularly liked you quote:

    “If we were to one day encounter a form of life more powerful and intelligent than our own, and it regarded us as we regard fish, what would be our argument against being eaten?” – Jonathan Safran Foer, Eating Animals

    • it is a nice sounding but ultimatly illogical quote if you are arguing against a carnivor…….do you think you will convince the carnivor to starve to death in order that you may remain alive (because we are such noble non meat eating creatures) by this argument?….i think not……it is an irrelevant quote if your dealing with a herbivore and only has any worth when arguing with a fellow omnivor…..

  26. Thank you everyone for your lovely comments! It is great to see that there are lots of vegetarians/vegans and science fiction lovers out there 🙂

  27. Ha great post. Giving up meat helps you live long and prosper.

  28. I would love to re-post this on my blog which is about living green and being a vegan. Do you mind? I’ll be sure to link it back to your blog.

  29. Reblogged this on GiRRL_Earth and commented:
    I am re-posting a Freshly Pressed from The Flex Generation, that I feel aligns quite nicely with my beliefs (and blog) about why animals should be off the menu. I think this blogger makes a compelling argument. Wouldn’t you agree? I especially enjoy the quote from Jonathan Safran Foer, on Eating Animals, when he says, “If we were to one day encounter a form of life more powerful and intelligent than our own, and it regarded us as we regard fish, what would be our argument against being eaten?” Excellent question Jonathan!

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  31. Interesting. Starting as a child, I have read hundreds if not thousands of science fiction novels (including watching science fiction films). When I converted to Veganism in my thirties, reading science fiction had nothing to do with my decision. Wanting to be healthy was the reason why I changed and I decided to give the vegan lifestyle a chance for six months to see if it worked. It was a friend who was a vegan that convinced me to give it a try and she didn’t read science fiction.

    That was 1982 and I’m still a vegan and for thirty years I’ve experienced great health, no weight problems, no headaches, no common colds, no annual flu, etc. and I eat more of a variety of food types than I did as a meat eater for the first half of my life.

    It is amazing how many choices of food types we have to choose from after we subtract meat, cheese, dairy, eggs, sodas, processed sugar in food, and greasy french fries—the staple for the average Western diet.

    There is a HUGE variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts, grains, legumes, etc. In comparison, most meat eaters have a very limited diet of about a half dozen choices cooked many different ways with different sauces.

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  33. Interesting thoughts! I’m a vegetarian too. Also CONGRATS on fresh pressed!!

  34. Interesting blog, science fiction does affect many of my everyday choices.
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  35. Proud to be a vegetarian. In real life. We are more and more. GO VEGI !

  36. Love the post, though I’m not quite sure if I agree with everything. Humans as they exist today are not just omnivores, carnivores or herbivores, we have become capitalists when it comes to food. We do not relate to food purely through the earth and the nutrients it delivers to our bodies. We interact with food through a series of economic transactions, which has caused the industrialization of agriculture. I am not a vegetarian and I quite enjoy eating a breadth of animals “less regarded” than our human counterparts, but the animals I enjoy most are the ones that I know have been sustainably sourced. I hold the meat I eat in high regard, which is not to say I want to be eaten by a higher life form than myself, but I guess my general point is that there is a lot more to the way we eat meat than the pure food chain.

  37. I’m very proud of you and happy! no matter why you become vegetarian or vegan (and you are finnish, you must have some weird reason, lol) – it helps, it’s important and I say thx for saving some lives! kisses & hugs -steph

  38. I have said for years, and so I’m going to post my name..should you want to use it, please give me credit.
    “If extraterrestrials ever discover our planet, they will either eat us, or enslave us.”
    Michelle Blanchard

  39. I want to thank you for writing this, and I want to thank WordPress for featuring it.
    “LIVE LONG AND PROSPER” tatha ‘stu!

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  41. I absolutely agree with your last sentence. I too turned vegetarian in December of 2011. When it became clear that I didn’t need to eat animals to maintain a healthy diet and that it wasn’t consistent with my own philosophies, I quit. My husband and I went the green path together and never looked back. It’s one of the best choices I ever made.

    I think having two pet dogs really did something to us. How could we love two animals who we would never dare harm or even conceive of eating but support the butchering of thousands of other (sometimes more intelligent) animals such as pigs?

    And that quote by Jonathan Safran Foer makes an excellent point. With great knowledge (like we have now) comes great responsibility and we simply don’t have to do things out of habit or ignorance anymore.

  42. If we were to one day encounter a form of life more powerful and intelligent than our own, and it regarded us as we regard fish, what would be our argument against being eaten? – Jonathan Safran Foer

    Flawed argument. The question could just as easily have been — If it regarded us as we regard VEGETABLES, what would be our argument against being eaten?

    In either case, there is only one possible answer. War. Win, or get eaten. Foer’s question, is thus an argument for space based military buildup; it’s not an argument for vegetarianism at all.

  43. It was Robert Heinlein, I think, who covered off the notion of aliens regarding us as delectable. “They’re cannibals,” one of his characters said. “No,” corrected another, “They don’t eat each other. Just us.”

    More to the point of your post – I am always intrigued by the way that science fiction – the better stuff – can make us think laterally, and in abstract form. It is this abstraction, I think, that becomes one of the keys to creativity and to developing those new ideas – that novum. For me, personally, a lot can flow from a dissonance of ideas – from putting two ideas against each other and seeing how they play off. It is hard to write this concept down in the way that i envision it; perhaps the analog would be musical, where two melodies can combine to create a third, more profound sound. To me, dissonant ideas can create new ideas like that. And SF is a very fertile source for us.

    Sound odd? I’m sure you know what I mean!

    • this post has got me laterally thinking……………even if the aliens turn out being herbivores we may still have a problem,not that they will regard us as we regard fish but that they may regard us as we regard rats and other crop destroying vermin,,,,scary thoughts……….giant rat traps and chemical warfare in the fields to prevent us from eating what grows…..

    • When Riker in Star Trek replied that they no longer enslave animals for food may be true. WHY?
      Simple… They have what is called replicators; they can duplicate anything they want and in Star Trek they also ate MEAT; they just “replicated” it..
      Some posters stated they couldn’t bare to think of s”small” cows slaughtered so they could have food on the table.
      YOU could use the same argument about plants; many say they feel and respond to us and outside stimuli..
      I was raised on a farm and have a more realistic outlook on life and the price for my survival..
      Animals will never have the same rights as a Human Being, unless they start to write and talk to people. Meaning showing clear sentience.. I was taught to treat and have the attitude that you treat animals with respect due to the reason what they provide to us for use to survive.
      So remember when you can’t run down to that favorite chain store to pick up you “Vegan” supplies when there has been a disaster.
      Hey I also like a good salad; but I also like my steak and baked potato as well..
      So until something “better” comes along this is how things are and will be..
      THERE WILL ALWAYS A PRICE TO PAY FOR YOUR SURVIVAL.. To eat an animal and or PLANTS pay a price for you to live; THAT IS NATURE.
      You want and remember that is WANT to eat VEGAN so a poor animal doesn’t pay the price for you to live THAT IS YOUR CHOICE. Since at this time YOU have that choice; it can change at anytime..

      • “Animals will never have the same rights as a human being, unless they start to write and talk to people.” If you want to use the ability to “write and talk” as a gauge for how to treat another living animal, the mentally challenged and deaf community might take objection to that. Since you were raised on a farm, you know firsthand the sounds that other mammals make when the mothers are separated from their young and the look in their eyes when they’re confined to pens smaller than jail cells murders are kept in. After working with cows that have never been farmed, cows that have been dairy cows their entire lives, and cows that have escaped from slaughter houses, I’ve seen the vast difference in how they behave. Suffering is suffering, plain & simple – it’s a more important indicator of how to treat another living being than their IQ. “You could use the same argument about plants; many say they feel and respond to us and outside stimuli.” People do say that, but the truth is that the mammals and birds we farm are much closer to us biologically than many people want to think about – two eyes, a brain, a heart, lungs, etc. If you wanna be a part of the species that’s top of the food chain, you have to own that responsibility and treat other creatures who can’t defend themselves with more respect. Instead, a replicator is going to be what it takes to make meat if forecasts are true that by 2050 there won’t be enough water in most parts of the world to feed both humans and other animals. We’re already being told there will be a bacon shortage. Before long, bacon eaters won’t have a “choice” – it can change at anytime.

        If it was necessary, I wouldn’t have to “run down to that favorite chain store to pick up my ‘Vegan’ supplies” – I can step outside and the vegetable garden my wife and I planted next to our front driveway provides the same sustenance that people ate when man only lived in equatorial regions. He was forced to eat meat after migrating into areas where there was little-to-no vegetation. We’re not naturally carnivores – that’s why your molars are flat (for grinding lettuce and other ruffage) instead of pointed like lions, wolves, and other actual meat eaters. Likewise, our intestines are longer than actual meat eaters. A lion’s food passes thru his short intestines very quickly. Unfortunately, meat likes to hang out in the human digestive system and many end up with various forms of cancer or maybe they just have to take a whole lot of Prilosec.

        Animals aren’t here FOR us. They’re not a commodity and even if they ever were, this isn’t the same world it was 100 years ago. You don’t ride a horse to work and you don’t write with a quill pen. You don’t wear the same clothes you did when you were a child. Why do you keep eating the same thing you’re eaten your whole life. I ate meat for 38 years and that was more than enough. Booorrrring. There are countless other foods to consume (without going to a fancy food chain.)

        You’re right: there is a price for survival. But if you mean surviving as a human being, then you have to behave humanely with respect and compassion toward other living beings.

      • YOU eat what YOU want and I’ll eat what I want.
        Human beings are not Herbivores nor are they Carnivores; Human beings are Omnivores. If you don’t know what that is look it up.
        Final case in point an animal would never think since it can not; it operates in pure instinct and the primary one is self preservation.
        Meaning If you could not feed yourself and your dog was there; would your dog divide the food between you and it?
        NOPE NADA ZIP.. It would wolf it down and then when your dead chow down on you..
        I pay my bills so I will eat what I like just as the same for you. YET I will never let YOU dictate to me what I can and can not eat..
        You can have your tofu and leafy green veggies and yet since you can’t hear the plant scream while you eat it in your hypocrisy about showing respect for living organisms and treating them the same rights a Human Beings, then I guess you will then starve to dead; the animals AND PLANTS you so respect will have no problem eating digesting and excreting your remains..

  44. As a vegetarian, I salute you! I too ate meat a lot in my family and it was also weird for them when I declared that I could not bear to think of the small cows that had been slaughtered so I could have food on the table. Keep up the good work!

  45. What if they regarded you as veggies? I say, eat meat to save yourselves.
    Nice post. Thought provoking.

  46. ace title, i so wish it was longer and had more examples of sci fi/vegetarian links 😉
    i got a H.G. Wells one
    “In all the round world of utopia there is no meat. There used to be. But now we cannot stand the thought of slaughterhouses. And in a population that is all educated and at about the same level of physical refinement, it is practically impossible to find anyone who will hew a dead ox or pig. We never settled the hygienic aspect of meat-eating at all. This other aspect decided us. I can still remember as a boy the rejoicings over the closing of the last slaughterhouse.” -H.G. Wells

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